Jaron_Lanier has been at the top of his game for decades. http://www.jaronlanier.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaron_Lanier#Early_life_and_education
Jaron Lanier: Virtual Reality, Social Media & The Future of Humans and AI | Lex Fridman Podcast #218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx0G6DHMfXM Full segment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx0G6DHMfXM , https://www.youtube.com/c/lexfridman/videos